English, Irish, German, Dutch

T:
Just remembered that it was my mother's father that was more Irish than my grandmother. My grandmother was English, Irish. What does that say? England and Ireland have been at war for how many centuries? No wonder they got a divorce when my mom was 16. No wonder we Americans are all so messed up!


Not me anymore! I'm free. No more manipulation or control from anyone.

Julia:
Holy Smokes! Might I ask what the Dutch people are known for? LOL LOL


I suspect it is for their kindness. Seriously. Not sure what the negs are.

Louise's father is big IRISH...W. Eyler! And he had all those things.

Its all a bit much for me but I get it all. Just not all soaking in for me like it is you. You got it crystal clear. I have to fight anger allot also. So does Louiseand Coyd. Not my Dad though.. I think C.M has to fight it also. He has the Norwegian big time. These generational/nationality curses remind me of the four temperaments in a way... Melancholy/Phlegmatic/Sanguine....forgot the other one.

Wow on what Reford's  Mother told you. And Wow on what he wrote about you..double wow.

Sooo glad you can forgive that last part now. Triple wow! The next Bible study is going to be "rockin and rollin."

p.s. Louise happy today. Samra kissed her last night for the first time. She is absolutely giddy. Driving around in a Lexus and shopping! Samra wants to take me to Chicago for dinner with them. No thanks! I would be so uncomfortable I cant even think about it. I have not done anything but work for so many years I am not ready for Chicago. Local dinner would be fine. Keep your revalations coming.
 
T:
Don't know about the Dutch except that my dad always said they were Dutch/German.


He also always said he wished his name was Wielberger instead of Wiel so he would be Jewish and be rich.

Can't believe Samra is just now kissing her. Are they there? Are they in LA?

My dad didn't have an anger cell in his body. Only one person he had a problem with all of his life, a neightbor who was mean and insulted him. He forgave her, joked about her a lot, but never went around her again. I never saw my dad lose his temper and be angry, not once. That's why it was a sh-- pit when I got married, constant anger. I was in prison. All that is gone now! Praise God.

Julie:
I thought your Dad was unkind to your Mom. Thru silence...

Samra and Louise are here...and he is a gentleman!!

T:
He was not demonstrative but always provided laughter for my mother. Yes, he was silent but also he was silent after my sister Lu moved them to Arlington. He stopped talking to everyone. Everything he did was offensive to Mother's Baptist standards, his drinking (never saw him drunk and he only drank with his brothers which was about every ten years) his gambling (he could afford to gamble and loved it. Never lost much) but Daddy was a financial wizard until he lost it all in the stock market when everyone else did, too.


Just received word of the death Maggie, Penny's best friend's sister. Penny is devastated and will probably come home. We just left their house and Maggie's mom (85) is in shock. Maggie was 58, had a heart attack Wed., went in for stents and her oxygen level was low, so they did one stent today to bring it up, then were planning to do a valve repair and another stent. She died when they pulled out the tube and they couldn't revive her. Penny will come Sun. for the funeral.

Our good attorney friend Ray had a son named Sean who has had a drug problem for years. Sean was found dead in his house yesterday. He was 35. Ray's wife is a recluse, rich family, She has emphysema but hasn't left the house for years. We expected her to die for several months, but now their son has died.

Way too much going on. Sean is as peace and had no more struggles with drugs Maggie is at peace and finally knows God like she always wanted to know him.

The families are left to grieve. They don't know God like we do.

Julie:
So sorry for all that bad news all at once....

T:
Staying above it, not under it! That's one of our inheritance benefits because we know where they are.

Off to one funeral, the 35 year old.
Then I get to work in the yard if it doesn't rain. YEA!
Julia:
Staying above it, not under it! That's one of our inheritance benefits because we know where they are.

Off to one funeral, the 35 year old.
Then I get to work in the yard if it doesn't rain. YEA!  Relax in your yard...I have a porch to work on soon!

T:
Great comparison.

Pray for Penny whether she should come or not. She and Esme are meeting us in SD on April 10th, so a trip here might be too much. She is so close to Maggie and Trish's family here, but they are handling things great. They are a very sophisticated family and their mom Sandy is always the ultimate lady, so they will function like blue blood people do.
 
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Holy Cow!!

HOLY COW! Thank God you didnt scan that one T!!


Holy cow again. My Dad's family is all German. ALL GERMAN, from Meltzlinberg. Mothers is Heinz 57...Irish, English (Baker) Do you know anything on the English emotions

Sure glad I got that email before leaving. Will read that one again when I get home. WOW WOW!! Be careful teaching that one...Irish people could get angry. Ya Think?? Rephrase some of it for them if you do teach on it. ha  By the way Dani and Belizze's Mom is Irish...
 
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Nationality Curses

Okay. I'm learning from your situation.


God just told me that some nationalities have manipulation at the core of their genes.

Example:

My mother's family were Irish, very melancholy and emotional. Her mother used manipulation all the time. Mother's sisters and their families were always in emotional turmoil. Somebody was always in need of money, etc. Sometimes my dad would help out but he finally saw the handwriting on the wall and stopped helping when he was asked to help over and over and over. One cousin shot his wife over being sexually manipulated over and over, and then having enough and he shot her. All the sisters had to supply the money for his trial, etc., which was huge because they hired the best attorney in the state of Texas. But that was a lesson for all of them, that their own well would run dry if they continued to do that. Some of Mother's relatives never seemed to grow up. They were always needy. Think about Ireland, always in war and turmoil for hundreds and hundreds of years, never a prosperous nation.

My dad's family were German. My grandfather came from a prosperous family, was rebellious to his banker dad and moved my grandmother and my dad and other seven kids from Iowa to Kansas, Ark. and then Ok. He never made a go of farming and they were always dirt poor. That's why my dad had to quit school in the 5th grade and go to work. All of the kids went to work. No one ever finished school. HOWEVER, all of them became successful at something, whether it was mechanics, business, factory workers, etc. Every one of them became self sufficient. My dad, with a 5th grade education, became successful even through he was a short little German guy with a huge nose. He started many businesses and made successes of all of them. He never borrowed money. He was a lender, lended money to people and made a great profit from that, also. All of my relatives in that family became prosperous, not hugely, but sufficiently in order to have a good life. ALL of their children have great jobs, very self sufficient even though not highly educated.

See the difference? Daddy's family had a more unstable background because of my grandfather's rebellion, but the German genes made them become self sufficient because of pride. They wouldn't take any money from anyone. They felt that they had to earn itl. That was the German self sufficiency.

Mother's family was always emotional, also emotionally manipulative, and they were always in need. That's the Irish genes.

I didn't know that about the Irish until we saw an Irish Celtic play and it was all clear to me about the emotionalism. They took pride in being interconnected and helping out one another, but they were co-dependent on one another, because they were ALWAYS having to supply someone's needs. No one rose above the poverty and constant need. All of that because of the Irish genes.

Some people do riise above them. Some don't.

So you gave me an opportunity to hear from God about the reason for my dad's family becoming stable financially and emotionally because my German grandmother made them be self sufficient.

Then there was my mom's family who were always emotionally immature and had to manipulate family members because they never became self sufficient. They didn't have to because somebody in the family was always supplying what they needed. That was because of the emotionalism in the Irish genes. They felt sorry for them constantly so they helped them out over and over again, further establishing the co-dependency. In other words, that old saying, "Give a guy a fish and you feed him for a meal. Teach him to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime," was never truth to them. Their thinking was, "Help a person out all the time and we will be a close family." There was never respect in that family because they were too co-dependent. There was emotional family love but no respect. There cannot be real love unless there's respect.

Boy, have I learned something today about my background and the difference between the co-dependent genes in the Irish and the independent genes in the Germans. .

Thank you, God, for the insight. Thank you, JulieAnn, for the need to hear from God about it.

Now I know why I had so much respect for my German Catholic grandmother and very little respect for my Irish Baptist grandmother. My Irish Baptist grandmother was always needy. My German Catholic one was never needy, just determined and self sufficient.

"One Thousand Dollars"

Deserving of sleep, awake because of one long nights dream about a thousand dollars. Not sure I want to even write that term down considering it has been in my uncontrollable dreams ALL NIGHT over and over. This is deeper than money. This reminds me of a small mob family story. It started out last evening when I rec'd a call from a man who "The Boss" set up to call me, if he wanted to live a sane life for another week at least. My Dad! The character of "The Boss" being played by none other than the mother figure. The man starts out giggly sweet and moves into shrewd. A mask I should know well, but considering I dont live in such a manner of ways, I forget. Why how dumb is that? I know it's not. He proceeds to make the statement that a certain member to the family is ready to move forward with certain legal arrangements and has wondered where the girls Dani, Balesse, and Louise) are in this matter. You see, he says they offered to contribute. (They did out of heart and No they didnt in reality, "The Boss" is trying to take over and get money from young girls, two of whom don't have jobs and are 21. One is only 18 and just out on her own with the need of car repairs) There are no words to say how flabbergasted I was hearing his pre-scripted words of borrowed arrogance and narcissism. I raised my voice and hardened it as well. I told him I knew "she" had put him up to this again. Those young girls have no money and the family member in need would never ask them for it as he well knows their situation. The prisoner in need of the money has more class than the farmers begging the youth for it. Then came the biggy. He asked where my thousand dollar donation went? Sometimes I understand why people shoot other people. Because they make you crazy is why. Of course I wouldn't shoot anyone but a good trip up would feel mighty good sometimes. It is said no one can upset anyone unless you LET THEM. Shut up! I used every big and little I had within and out to deal. Then went to bed.


I dreamed: I had a one thousand dollar gift card sitting on the dresser. I had taken it out of the bank to keep it safe so no one would get it. Yet: One of my clients saw it sitting on the dresser and made a comment in front of a few people at my house. Which let my safe $ secret out. He seemed harmless??? THEN.. David (Ogden, x-hubbs from the 80's) was there in a state of poverty and in great need of it! The $ card. He picked up the card and said, "We need to cash this in." I said, "No way, go get a job, I clean toilets for that money and I am not cashing it in." He was devastated and pale. Then I was cleaning out boxes in my (our) storage unit...I was throwing everything ...he was trying to keep little pieces of material and decorations. I said, "No, when I am finished there will only be a couple bins of necessary items." Then someone else came and wanted "it," the gift card......Then someone else. Separate dreams all night off and on tossing and turning until I finally said, THAT'S IT...and got up at 5:30.

Even sitting here typing this to you I see those words like a cattle brand in the air. A Thousand dollars!!

I am angry Tea. mother made him call and try to extricate money from three young girls, me, and so on. She uses all sort of manipulation in the background. This is exactly why he used to beat me with a belt...she would get him so angry and push him..... (Ben told them to leave me alone regarding the money, that he would figure it out.) Tommye I can sell his prints but they cost allot to get reprinted and framed.

p.s. Louise is a mess. Texting me, wont get out of bed. She says she has nothing. I told her she had somethings, "School for her future, and a vehicle." I told her she got herself in this situation and needs to get up and do something, one thing at a time to feel better. Like clean her room number one. etc.

Coyd called her so angry the other day. She told me he has NEVER spoke to her that way. She was rude to his roommate Tea. Ordered the guy around and missed her plane etc. I just shut my phone off at night or she will keep me awake like the other boss tries to. All she talks about is California... I told her she needs a plan first.

I do need a week off with no phones. Samra wants her to move in with him and from what I can see she doesn't have a choice anymore. No money, no car, nothing. He says he will teach her the business, she will have a Mercedes to drive, teach her how to invest money...have a pay check....BUT...he loves her! Oh and wants to have a baby with her!!! I HOPE NOT! And he told his Mother and Father who live downstairs in separate quarters of a huge home. Jeez!! No the H wonder I cant sleep well sometimes.They are Muslims...I think they are nice Muslims, LOL.. I have left out a whole bunch but considering you have been down this road for the past thirty years with me, I figure you got it the first paragraph.

I think I will polish my nails today! That'll make me feel good. New jobs this morning and tomorrow morning!!